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#26217 - 10/10/07 04:36 PM Chemtrail Inundation in Jamestown, New York - Oct 9 2007
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You may link to this thread using this simple URL:
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The morning was beautiful with deep blue skis that have been so common in this lush area in the past. The afternoon had a light breeze and the cool air was a continuous reminder that winter is coming.

Suddenly, about 4pm, large jets appeared and began emitting massive white plumes over the entire city from one end to the other (I watched the entire event myself). My sinuses began burning and my head pounding with a dull ache. Energy levels dropped dramatically and I got dark circles under my eyes. Laura experienced similar symptoms at the same time. Of course, these symptoms are not uncommon here, and they are always associated with the appearance of chemtrails.

Within a couple hours, the sky was blue again and all signs of the chemtrails were completely gone, but the burning sinuses continued well into today, although the pain and other symptoms—including achy muscles and brain fog—are only about 1/5 as severe as they were yesterday.

Here are some of the pictures I took with my camera around my house and in downtown Jamestown.

Keep in mind that everything you see in the sky came out of a jet. I watched the event myself.


This first picture was taken downtown in front of the post office looking up the hill towards 6th St.




This next picture was taken directly across the street from the post office. I included the street light in the picture as a reference.




In this picture, I zoomed in a bit on the flag that flies above the post office building.




This picture was taken from my front yard looking out over the town.




This picture was taken as the chemtrails began to dissipate. The appearance of the resulting pattern was quite stunning, especially of you were to personally witness because you would have been able to get a feel for the enormous size of this event.




This was taken across the street from the post office looking up at a church steeple.





Finally, here is an enormous plume directly above my house.




I have a large collection of chemtrails photos located here:

http://russtanner.com/chemtrailgallery

Another Interesting Link...

Biological Warfare: Experiments On the American People
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#26218 - 10/11/07 04:32 AM Re: Chemtrail Inundation in Jamestown, New York - Oct 9 2007
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WOW, they fluffed you up dang good!!!
This evil program must be stopped, that can only happen when people will
OPEN
THEIR EYES
then open their mouths.
ok , just because y'all might think it's paranoid does NOT mean they aren't out to get ( rid of) YOU ( an me , of course)

Geeze, Russ, you're a healthy guy, what must this do to someone immune compromised?


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#26219 - 10/11/07 03:24 PM Re: Chemtrail Inundation in Jamestown, New York - Oct 9 2007
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This must be one of the greatest human crimes ever perpetrated on humans.

Laura and I both feel fatigued when this happens. I also—having a very sensitive nose—get a terrible sinus headache and sinus burning and after about an hour, we both get dark circles and get quite fatigued.

Unbelievable that this is happening right before our eyes.

We're researching the information on the following website to help us combat the symptoms that occur with the appearance of these chemtrails:

Biological Warfare: Experiments On the American People

Chemtrail Centrail Report

http://herballure.com/chemtrails

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#26220 - 10/11/07 05:28 PM Re: Chemtrail Inundation in Jamestown, New York - Oct 9 2007
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Russ, I've had experiences just like that in my neck of the woods. Sme days they paint the skies something awful. That burning sinus pain would not go away for me either.

I responded to your other thread on fatigue and mycoplasma and provided some additional links and information that you might be interested in. I've been reading about Mycoplasma for quite awhile. But just thought I'd add here that those burning sinuses (as well as your other symptoms) can be one of the many symptoms of Mycoplasma infection. I'm sure you've already figured that out!

My mycoplasma tests were positive and when I got treatment for it my symptoms finally started to improve. I was not just experiencing symptoms on chemtrail days. I do think my symptoms started on a chemtrail day but due to my overwhelmed immune system, the symptoms remained and steadily got worse.

I specifically recall a day 2 summers ago. I was sitting outside trying to get sunshine and watched the jets make long chemtrail patterns in the sky above me. Within an hour I my eyes were burning, sinuses were congested, burning and I couldn't stop sneezing, I started wheezing, screaming muscles that also felt weak, dizziness, the list is endless. I ended up needing an antibiotic for what turned into a very nasty upper respiratory infection. But I don't think just that one course of treatment was enough for me. I've had those symptoms for the most part ever since that day until I recently demanded mycoplasma testing and got more aggressive treatment.

It was also shortly after that "day of heavy chemtrail exposure" that my chronic epstein barr virus went into full blown mononucleosis. And until I got my 17 amalgams removed, I was unable to get rid of that infection. And although I was sick and not functioning well prior to that, 've been severely incapacitated with "chronic fatigue-type symptoms" ever since. Chronic fatigue and feeling ill in so many ways until I began treatment for the mycoplasma.

In addition to the theory of mycoplasmas in the chemtrails, I've also come across the issue of Lyme being in them as well. I figure there might be validity to that as well because Lyme has become epidemic (that's what the Dept. of Health in my state is saying). There can't be a preponderance of the population getting bitten by tics and getting Lyme. Common sense just seems to lead me to think there is an additional form of causation. And the chemtrail theory would make sense.

I'm so glad there is someone else on the planet that "I know" that has made the connection. I was beginning to think I'd lost my mind. Had never heard of chemtrails until I had that experience. Since that day, I've read about the issue on the internet but have never come across anyone personally who made the connection between symptoms and chemtrails. So your post here has made me feel better and I thank you for that.

Until I find out otherwise, I decided awhile ago that I was just going to assume that I got my mycoplasma infection on that day -- or perhaps whatever was in the chemtrail re-activated mycoplasmas in my body.

SomedaySoon (Sharon)


p.s. In case you haven't come across these: some remedies to help with Mycoplasmas are Cat's Claw, some of the Transfer Factor formulas out there do have Mycoplasma support and also the RainTree company has an herbal Myco formula that contains botanicals/herbs from the amazon rainforest. Anyway, have a look at some of the links I provided in my other response to you in the amalgam forum, if you like. There are some recommendations for treatments and/or remedies within some of those sites.

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#26221 - 10/11/07 07:46 PM Re: Chemtrail Inundation in Jamestown, New York - Oct 9 2007
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Also, in addition to what I wrote in my post above and also in the amalgam forum, here's an article from one of the links I placed in the amalgam forum in response to your fatigue post. I don't know anything about the author. I must confess that I question anyone discussing the mycoplasma, lyme, or other co-infection problems without the knowledge of the true name of Lyme Disease. The minute I see someone call it "Lymes" their credibility lessens in my view. A stupid thing on my part, I'm sure .... but I have a huge pet peeve with people calling Lyme "Lymes." Particularly people who claim to treat the condition and/or have knowledge about stealth pathogens like Lyme and Mycoplasmas.

Anyway, I just thought his article was interesting. Some might view the theme of the article as a bit over the top. Hope it's ok that I included such a long article here.

Genetically Engineered Stealth Microbes May Be The Source of Your Health Problems, by Gary Tunsky

You wake up dead tired. You feel like you've been hit by a truck. Sleep becomes sporadic, if at all. When sound sleep occurs, the restoration of energy is minimal causing you to meticulously save your energy like a miser hoards gold. If you force yourself into activities beyond the scope of your normal daily chores, you pay a heavy price. A possible consequence is being bedridden for days.

You have trouble concentrating. Short-term memory spells make you feel like you're trapped in a brain fog. You have unexplained muscle aches and joint pains like a never-ending flu. Your spouse and family don't understand this new metamorphic change in you, going from active and bubbly to sick and decrepit in the prime of your life almost overnight. Your social life has disintegrated and once close friends are slowly drifting away because the monotonous explanation that you're too tired to see a movie or go out to dinner has waned thin. Your taking an abundance of sick time and your boss is starting to question your sanity. Nobody understands. Nobody believes. Nobody offers help. Well, almost nobody.

Thanks to the research of Professor Don Scott and Dr. Garth Nicholson, there is a growing awareness of a mysterious and debilitating illness that is affecting over 800,000 Americans, and being carried dormant by everyone in North America just waiting to be triggered into molecular terrorism. This man made, hidden stealth pathogen is named Mycoplasma, and is the common culprit in almost every disease process today including AIDS and Lymes disease.

Chances are if you feel sick and tired and your doctor is unable to make a definite diagnosis because lab tests, blood chemistry profiles and tissue cultures fail to reveal any disease pathogen, you might very well be infected with Mycoplasma. According to Professor Don Scott, this newly formed virulent pathogen is a weaponized crystalline form of the nonpathogenic Brucella bacterium which resides naturally in the oral cavity, gut flora and superficial body sites that has been genetically engineered with the retro virus visna from sheep (scrapies) by our own military. This mutated sub-viral particle acts by attaching to a gene in either the cell nuclei or mitochondria and given a suppressed immune system, acidic pH, low oxygen cell environment coupled with a triggered physical or emotional trauma, the Mycoplasma/amyloid will initiate a replication process of useless protein fibrils called nucleation. This process triggers programmed cell death disabling the ATP producing factories (mitochondria). These sub-viral bacterium particles have been termed prions by Dr. Prusiner, stealth viruses by John Martin, amyloid by Dr. Gajdusek and Mycoplasma/Brucellosis by Don Scott and Garth Nicholson.

Despite government manipulated statistics, there has been an undeniable rapid increase of all neurodegenerative and autoimmune diseases coming out of nowhere since the mid 1990's with absolutely no origin to their genealogy. My question to medical science is why are there such an unprecedented number of Americans caught up in a medical merry-go-round of being bounced from one doctor to the next without ever receiving a proper diagnosis? The simple answer is mainstream medical doctors are not trained in detection of non-detectable pathogens. Since Mycoplasma hides intracellularly and invades multiple organs and systems, it manifests a vast array of symptoms throughout the whole body, making a correct diagnosis virtually impossible for a mainstream doctor's linear, magic bullet mentality.

Due to the misdirection of medical science compartmentalizing the human body into 10 separate specialty fields (dermatology, endocrinology, urology, neurology, psychology, oncology, gastric specialty, general practice etc.), like an auto mechanic would segregate engine parts, none of the mainstream physicians understand how all 10 body systems work synergistically as a whole like a flowing river. This has led medical science to perpetuate trash can labels to terms for symptoms of Mycoplasma to hide their ignorance.

Syndrome X, Graves disease, Systemic Lupus, Sjogren-Larsson syndrome, Huntington's chorea, Guillain-Barré syndrome, myasthenia gravis, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, Rift Valley fever, Hashimoto, Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's disease, post traumatic stress syndrome, ADDH, even the recent West Nile virus, are all virulent Mycoplasma invasions in disguise. The names of the mysterious diseases are simply the location of the Mycoplasma invasion/destruction, not a new disease. Almost every neurodegenerative and autoimmune disease has a pathogenic Mycoplasma species responsible for the initiation of the disease process.

Seven Mycoplasma Variants Linked To Numerous Diseases

The seven weaponized Mycoplasma variants that enter fluid and blood circulation that were created covertly by the U.S. government and are now wreaking havoc on the population are the following:

1.) M. Fermentans (incognitas strain). The term fermentans reveals fermentation process (i.e.: yeast, molds, fungus, spores, cancer).
2.) M. Penetrans penetrate the cell membrane and invade host cells.
3.) M. Pneumoniae attacks upper respiratory epithelial cells, inflaming them and causing upper respiratory infections and chronic pneumonia.
4.) M. Genitalium (Genitalia) invades urethral tissue and cells in the genital area causing pelvic inflammation and urethritis.
5.) M. Hominus is found in joint tissues in rheumatoid arthritis.
6.) M. Pirum is found in AIDS as a co-factor accelerating AIDS progression.
7.) M. Salivarium is found in salivary glands and joint tissues in rheumatoid arthritis.

High-level exposure of Mycoplasma to blood, semen, mother's milk or vaccines will lead to AIDS. Low-level exposure to bodily fluids where concentrations are less will contribute to chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, multiple sclerosis and other autoimmune diseases. Specific diseases can be targeted by controlling the Mycoplasma concentrations to bodily fluids.

Mycoplasma Thrives On Cholesterol

What makes these designer diseases so elusive is that they're genetically engineered only for DNA replication, transcription and translation with no organelle or cell wall. They have lost their genes for amino acid and fatty acid synthesis, forcing them to invade and steal proteins, sugars and sterols (cholesterol) from healthy neighboring cells to survive.

These cholesterol dependent molecular terrorists immediately take up residency in the individual's genetically pre-disposed weaknesses, (the weak link in the chain of organs or systems), or the path of least resistance. Since Mycoplasma has absolute dependence upon the uptake of preformed sterols (cholesterol structures), they have an affinity toward cell membranes, nerve cells, sex hormone cell factories, glands and the gray matter in brain tissue, where cholesterol sterols are found. Since cholesterol is a co-factor in glandular hormone production, the endocrine balance is drastically altered with cholesterol being pulled out of the cell cycle. That is why pathogenic changes are seen most often during pregnancy, hormone replacement therapy, steroid therapy, menstrual cycles and xenoestrogens from pesticides, herbicides, meat and dairy.

With the disruption of the hormones, comes an open invitation for the RNA directed HIV to replicate. The newly formed HIV RNA makes its way to the host cell surface where it connects and breaks away carrying with it a GP 120 protein envelope that was hijacked from the previous cell's surface. It repeats by countering another cell, adheres to the cell surface and accesses the interior genetic material of its new host where the cascade process is repeated.

Unless Mycoplasma penetrates into tissues and cells they cannot exert their terrorist effects. They will lay dormant, sometimes for a decade, until physical or emotional trauma, severe stress or vaccine contaminants wake up the sleeping giant to invade and feed on the cell's genetic material like an intracellular parasite, taking the cell hostage until it ruptures and dies.

Mycoplasma Triggering Mechanisms

Mycoplasma is activated and stimulated by initiators (ignition) and potentiators (promoters). The potentiators are the toxic substances in our food, beverages, environment, pharmaceuticals, heavy metals (mercury amalgams) and chemicals that we bath in, etc. that store in fat cells and weaken our cellular terrain and immune system to allow the initiators (i.e. stress, viruses, bacteria, fungus, parasites, emotional and physical trauma, fear, increased estrogen, anger, etc.) to ignite or light up the gasoline that's poured on the barn -Mycoplasma.

If the gray matter of the brain tissue is the target of Mycoplasma invasion, you'll portray symptoms of dementia, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease or memory and cognitive thinking disturbances depending on the area of the brain terrorized.

If the spinal cord is the victim, you will exhibit symptoms of neurodegenerative diseases like myasthenia gravis, Guillain-Barré and ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease). If your weakness happens to be the synovial fluid cells in your joints, rheumatoid arthritis with severe joint pain will be your disease. In fact, many of the 21st century diseases that were thought to be autoimmune turned out to be Mycoplasma invasions. I do not believe that God made our immune systems that stupid to attack our own tissues.

If Mycoplasma invades the beta cells in the pancreas that manufactures insulin, you can't regulate blood sugar and Diabetes Mellitus will be your demise. If your cardiac tissues are your weak link, cardiomyopathy will manifest. If M. Pneumoniae or M. Fermentans attacks the bronchial lining of the bronchial tubes, the inflammation will trigger asthma and upper respiratory infections. If the myelin sheaths of the nerves are targeted, you will exhibit neurological symptoms of multiple sclerosis. If the intestinal lining is penetrated, the damage to the mucosal lining will perpetrate Crohn's disease or leaky gut. In the case of Lou Gehrig's disease, 80% of the patients have detected at least two Mycoplasma strains -M. Penetrans and M. Fermentans.

In ALS, the oligodendritic nerve cells which require cholesterol to synthesize neurosteroids are eaten. If Mycoplasma population is large enough, they gobble up so much cholesterol they diminish neurosteroid synthesis which leads to severe central nervous system malfunctions. Even Lyme's disease, which is the fastest growing infectious disease in the U.S. and possibly Europe, with the exception of AIDS, was found to be linked to both Borrellia and Mycoplasma infections as a co-infection. The Mycoplasma species of M. Pneumoniae and Chlamydia invading the pericardium lining of the heart, seem to be common dominators of myocarditis and pericarditis infections.

Mycoplasma steroid stealing properties also make the energy producing mitochondria leaky by robbing cholesterol lipids that are necessary in mitochondrial membrane integrity. When mitochondria bleed, they cannot generate ATP energy necessary for cell energy and function and nerve cells are the most sensitive to energy deprivation. This explains why chronic fatigue and neurological disorders are the main symptoms of the trinity diseases chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), fibromyalgia (FMS) and Gulf War illness (GWI). In my opinion, they are the same disease etiology with all three characterizing common symptom traits of chronic fatigue, short term memory loss, low grade fevers, tissue and lymph swelling, joint and muscle pain, stomach and digestive disorders, immuno-suppression and severe systemic chronic infections that invade various organs, tissues and cells including the brain, nervous system and heart.

Mycoplasma Infection Leads To A Medical Merry-Go-Round

Since the disease pattern of CFS, FMS and GWI affect all major body systems (cardio vascular invasion involving the left ventricle, neurological damage ranging from mild cognitive problems to bi-polar depression or schizophrenia, genitourinary damage presenting incontinence or urethritis, pulmonary symptoms of asthma and the development of fibro masses or nodules in the lungs etc.), this multi-faceted symptomology is causing a medical merry-go-round in the medical profession starting with a general practitioner who will usually prescribe an anti-inflammatory and a short-term antibiotic regimen for the chronic infection. Since you also exhibit symptoms of neurological disorders and your general practitioner is not versed in neurology, you will be referred to a neurologist. After the examination with a neurologist and a couple scripts later for your anxiety and insomnia, you will be pawned off on an endocrinologist for your hormonal imbalance because the neurologist has limited knowledge in endocrinology. Due to the combined adverse side effects of the antibiotics, anti-inflammatories, analgesics and tranquilizers, you may exhibit signs of gastric disturbances and skin reactions where you will be further drugged by a dermatologist or a gastrologist. Next in line on the "gist" medical treadmill is the cardiologist who will push a beta-blocker or a diuretic on you for your cardiomyopothies. After seeing ten different disease specialists and spending thousands of dollars on MRI's, CT Scans, X-Rays, surgery, pharmaceuticals, etc., without finding a solution to your dilemma, you will be labeled psychosomatic, hypochondriac or suffering from severe depression where you will end up with a psychologist. You're now a walking drug store with more complications than what you started with thanks to the combined adverse reactions of the drugs and the limitations of medical doctors who specialize in only 1/10th of the body. What a racket!!!

The government perpetrates non-detectable, virulent, stealth pathogens on the population by way of mosquito vectors (West Nile), primary aerosol, chemtrails, vaccines and possibly the food chain, and then you're put through a medical merry-go-round of disease specialists that know little or nothing about Mycoplasma ideology and do not have access to the necessary diagnostics for detection. The pharmaceutical companies and the warlocks in Washington and Wall Street are laughing all the way to the bank as they profit hundreds of billions of dollars on humanity's suffering while fulfilling their agenda of population control.

Protocols To Treat Mycoplasma

Since Mycoplasma cannot be successfully treated with the usual short course duration of antibiotics due to their intracellular location, slow proliferation rate and inherent resistance to most antibiotics, the few Mycoplasma experts that specialize in this field are recommending six-months to one year of non-stop treatments using strong antibiotics such as Cipro and Doxycycline. However, if a patient does not want to destroy their body and immune system with Cipro and Doxycycline, a total overhaul of every cell from head to toe using a multi-faceted, non-toxic, holistic treatment approach is absolutely necessary to overcome Mycoplasma infections naturally. This is why vitamins and nutritional supplementation are so important in the therapy. Chronic illness patients must also be weaned off antidepressants and other potential immune suppressing drugs before they can fully recover from their illnesses.

[Do you REALLY think your government and health care leaders have your best interests at heart?]

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#26222 - 10/12/07 06:21 AM Re: Chemtrail Inundation in Jamestown, New York - Oct 9 2007
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Aw, Sharon, quite a few folks have made the chemtrail connection to these illnesses, but still nobody on the street wants to hear of it. Even on this forum where folks have been lied to and knowingly poisoned by the big guys behind the dental industry, they don't want the bad thoughts from knowing whats going on.
Well, suppression and denial of the truth is gonna lead us all
into a mass grave unless folks wake up.
Sharon, ya got a great skill with words and obviously a good heart, keep speakin this truth and ya never know how it might spread, those who know whats goin on have a heavy burden right now, but I'm truly hopin critical mass for this info is not so very far away.
For those willin to look into the vaccination nightmare, Len Horowitz is purty good, a bit over-zealous but heck, he's dang mad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8df9-oADP_c&mode=related&search=

If ya watch it, don't get hypnotized by Dr.(?) CON-o.
Sorry, it's in 16 or so parts, but worth it for the sheer audacity a whats been done to us eejits,
ok then, eejits no more!!!
God bless and respect, E.

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#26223 - 10/15/07 01:28 AM Re: Chemtrail Inundation in Jamestown, New York - Oct 9 2007
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Quote:

quite a few folks have made the chemtrail connection to these illnesses, but still nobody on the street wants to hear of it. Even on this forum where folks have been lied to and knowingly poisoned by the big guys behind the dental industry, they don't want the bad thoughts from knowing whats going on.
Well, suppression and denial of the truth is gonna lead us all
into a mass grave unless folks wake up.




Very well said!

It never ceases to amaze me that someone will lie, cheat and steel from a victim and then the victim will keep coming back for more.

Whether mercury, vaccines safety, income tax or the countless number of lies that have been told by the American government, people are just too afraid to face the fact that our worst nightmare—the one that our forefathers warned us would happen if we were not prudent to protect ourselves—is coming true right before our eyes.

I sincerely hope people will wake up and learn to face these things so they can either overcome them or at least protect themselves.

Good link you posted. Here is a place people can go and see all 16 parts on one page:

http://herballure.com/inlieswetrust


Here are a couple loosely-related links:

Confessions of an RX Drug Pusher

Biblical Sorcery and Modern Drugs

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#26224 - 10/15/07 12:06 PM Re: Chemtrail Inundation in Jamestown, New York - Oct 9 2007
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Russ, we're having a lot of spraying over central Ohio today. I checked the weather forecast and there was no mention of clouds. However, there is a milky white overcast over the entire area now.

It's amazing that this can go on globally and yet 99% of the population is totally unaware of what is happening. After ten years of this I guess that most people don't know what a normal sky looks like. Also, as Christians we know that the world has fallen into spiritual darkness and that prevents them from seeing the evil around them.

I hope that this is a sign that Christ will be returning to earth in the not too distant future.

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#26225 - 10/18/07 11:10 AM Re: Chemtrail Inundation in Jamestown, New York - Oct 9 2007
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It's so good to see my harded earned tax dollars at work.

I think Jesus is coming soon too. What's really interesting, is that I am hearing the same thing from LOTS of people... God is really talking a lot lately to lots of people so something's up for sure. A friend told me yesterday that he told her that he would return shortly after her mother died... her mother is 92 years old, she says she thinks about 4-5 years she said directly 'he's coming for the church'...I would give everything I've got for just a little piece of ground near his feet no kidding. some people say rapture right? Well I am not a rapture believer generally but he has indicated the same to me of late... coming for the church in that way! So... cool. But,, can you imagine what life on this planet would be like without all of us, the church? There will be absolutely no one to say no to the nonsense... no one to pray... no one with God at their side holding back the floods of disaster. We shall see.

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#26226 - 10/18/07 11:47 AM The Tribulation
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The Tribulation will be a terrible time on earth. I believe in a pre-Tribulation rapture and my guess is that it will happen sometime in the next few decades because things are moving so fast now.


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It's so good to see my harded earned tax dollars at work.

I think Jesus is coming soon too. What's really interesting, is that I am hearing the same thing from LOTS of people... God is really talking a lot lately to lots of people so something's up for sure. A friend told me yesterday that he told her that he would return shortly after her mother died... her mother is 92 years old, she says she thinks about 4-5 years she said directly 'he's coming for the church'...I would give everything I've got for just a little piece of ground near his feet no kidding. some people say rapture right? Well I am not a rapture believer generally but he has indicated the same to me of late... coming for the church in that way! So... cool. But,, can you imagine what life on this planet would be like without all of us, the church? There will be absolutely no one to say no to the nonsense... no one to pray... no one with God at their side holding back the floods of disaster. We shall see.



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#26227 - 10/18/07 12:43 PM Re: The Tribulation
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I agree with the Fact that God will come soon ....they are just poisoning us too badly at this point. He has also been telling me get ready...not too much longer and I know I am ready now. I was also taught about the rapture when I was little but not sure how its all gona happen. Very exciting though and especially knowing all these evil people will finally get their just desserts. Ha bet money won't help them at that point!!!!
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#26228 - 10/19/07 12:09 AM Re: Chemtrail Inundation in Jamestown, New York - Oct 9 2007
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Elvis, I can't thank you enough for your kind words. You're a sweetheart. While I've known about chemtrails for years, I was unaware of the probable contents in them until a couple of years ago. And other then my hubby, pretty much everyone else I know doesn't even want to entertain the notion.

Hey, thanks for the link. I watched the entire video. Whenever I read about the vaccination issue I feel guilty! Although my baby is a "grown up teenager now," I cringe when I think of what I allowed the doctors to poke her with as a baby. I thought I was doing the right thing and keeping her healthy. Oh, the worry and guilt I have over all that!

Now if I can just get her to listen up about all this so that she'll be aware whenever she settles down and starts her own family! I don't think I could bear the thought of grandbabies being vaccinated knowing what I know now.

Hugs,
SomedaySoon (Sharon)

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#26229 - 10/19/07 04:20 AM Re: Chemtrail Inundation in Jamestown, New York - Oct 9 2007
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Know ezactly what you mean Sharon about watchin the grandbabies get needled, heck, I lost more friends recently for just stickin to my guns on all this stuff, but ya know what?, a few are commin back askin questions, I kinda make em beg now, they value it more.
For my family members that got vaccinated, we have an astoundingly good homeopath and there is a lot that can be done for neutralizing some a the vaccine damage, no matter how old ya are. Anti-vaccine remedies is usually the first place ma wonderful lady starts from with her new patients.
No point in feelin guilty, we did what we thought was best, now it's just about turnin the boat around.
We can do it, leastaways we can try.
Very best to you Sharon, been a fan a yours for some time.
And hey, best to everyone here.
P.S. The Mayan calander perdicts many a the same things as the Christian philosophy reflected hereabouts. In fact , their calender stops at 2012, so 5 years is purty much in concurrence with many artifacts from clued up civilizations.
I am also a studier a some esoteric astrologers, watch for some proverbial dung to hit the fan after /around Christmas, the 911 issue is heating up, the truth movement is gathering weight and important people, heck, even Bob Bowman, ex head of Naval Intelligence !!! ( I did not realize that NI is topdog way above CIA, FBI ) is on board, and even issuing warnings to the military about what the heck is goin on now in Iraq and Iran.
Here's hopin we can all stay alive to see it through.
Bad chemtrailin today here, gonna stay in, I guess.
Still, the powers that be ain't subtle about their plans. Anabody seen the Georgia Guidstones???
Geeze Louise, top a the list is to get the population down to 5 million, those arrogant barstewards have written that in STONE. Google it, folks, don't just take ma word for it.
Theres some crazy-[censored] megalomaniacs need a good kick into hyper-space.
whoah, where did this rant come from?

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#26230 - 11/28/07 12:15 PM chemtrails over central Ohio
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We're having a lot of spraying over central Ohio again. I just started recording chemtrail activity in September but it seems like they are coming here more frequently.

I've been sick for a long time but it seems worse on the days that they spray. Since I'm already weakened I don't know if I'll survive this toxic assault.

I hope and pray that God comes back soon because things are getting so bad.

I noticed that "I Am Legend", another post-apocalyptic movie, is being released next month. I wonder if that's a way for the elite to tell us what they are going to do in the near future.

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#26231 - 12/19/07 01:29 AM Re: Chemtrail Inundation in Jamestown, New York - Oct 9 2007
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Wouldn't those behind this conspiracy be harming themselves too? Or do they protect themselves somehow?

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#26232 - 01/03/08 10:25 PM Re: Chemtrail Inundation in Jamestown, New York - Oct 9 2007
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This is a bit of a complex question to answer because of the complexity of the conspiracy as a whole.

In short, there are many levels to the current realm of conspiracy. These levels operate like shells in an operating system or electron orbital levels in an atom (to build a model), yet, there is also breadth, such are those who work as part of the operation at a certain level and don't know about others at the same level who work on a "need to know basis", i.e., compartmentalization.

At each level, there is some belief system. At the very top, a few know the real motivation for the activity in question, such as chemtrails. As you progress down through lower levels, the truth become skillfully obscured to fit the mindset of those who reside at that level, much like a filter (flowing from bottom to top).

Those at the highest levels are protected because they have antidotes. Those at a lower levels believe that the reason for the activity is something other than the true reason, and their belief at this level is that the activity is harmless or even beneficial. These are expendable yet are the ones who provide funding, much like people who join the masonic lodge for business perks not knowing what the members in higher levels are actually up to.


A great irony in the chemtrail dilemma is this: Those who execute the work of the activity (pilots, etc.) are themselves the harmed.

The next great irony is that the lowest groups who are harmed (the populace) at the greatest numbers are those who fund most of the project (taxation, donations, etc.).

In the big picture, this should be no big surprise. Throughout history, oppressed peoples where almost always funding their own oppression.


Evolutionary lies to attempt to keep people away from the Book that exposed this current massive conspiracy centuries ago:
Hovind: Lies In The Textbooks

An example of a conspiracy exposed in the Bible:
Biblical Sorcery and Modern Drugs

Kennedy was going to expose, as he put it: "The plight to undermine America's freedom" in a speech that was to occur a few days after he was assassinated.
Kennedy On Secret Societies

Another, more famous conspiracy exposed long ago; one we will likely see occur in our lifetimes:
The Bar Code and the Mark of the Beast

Various other pieces to the puzzle:

One Nation Under Siege

Our Solor System

Bush Nazi Family Ties

From Freedom To Fascism


Biological Warfare: Experiments On the American People ("Experimentation": Another name for population control; see U.N. Agenda 21)

Just for fun:
The Government Always Tells the Truth

The New Order of Barbarians

Good Overview
Return of the Nephilim, Chuck Missler

The Dangers of Evolution, Hovind

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#26233 - 01/04/08 06:04 AM Re: Chemtrail Inundation in Jamestown, New York - Oct 9 2007
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Just one small detail, it's purty likely there ain't pilots flyin those planes, there's mounting evidence to prove this in quite a few cases.
Anaways, over here I had the pleasure a seein the cloakin device in action on quite a few planes, but it had to get up in altitude first. geesh, boys an their toys.
For those that still think it's altutudinal/atmospherical contrailing, think again:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HOyjtiaFibw

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#26234 - 01/05/08 02:42 AM Just A Friendly Update - Jan 5, 2008
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The continued increase in chemtrail inundation here in Jamestown is unprecedented.

We've spotted spraying at night two nights this week (in addition to all but one day) but have been unable to see the sky on all other nights due to a continuously overcast sky.

The most distressing part of this deluge is that the symptoms (sinus burning, headaches, fatigue) have been more overbearing each night and have reached a point that it has often become difficult to even work. In addition to chewing cinnamon oil toothpicks, Laura and I have both resorted to taking ibuprofen which helps ease the painful symptoms.

I can say this: If what is happening in this area is any indication of what will occur in other populated areas in the future, something has to be done soon.

As I sit here at 2:30am Saturday morning and write this, the skies over Jamestown are overcast, so there is no way to see if trails are being sprayed, but I can say that the three primary symptoms—sinus pain, headache, brain fog, and fatigue—are not far from unbearable at this very moment.

I don't know what substance is being used, but it is not affected at all by my top-of-the line $1000 IQ Air purifier or either of my two Alan air purification systems.

I do want to thank all of you for the excellent information on this thread. It's great to see people working together to provide good information that really helps people get to the source of the problem.

If there is anyone who has access to some type of air testing technology or a lab of some kind and would be interested in trying to help us find out what exactly is being sprayed over this town, I would welcome your phone call.
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#26235 - 01/05/08 05:14 AM Re: Just A Friendly Update - Jan 5, 2008
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Wow, why Jamestown? Wonder where else with folks unawares?
Real sorry to hear a your troubles, Russ and Laura. Posts like yours are real useful for me to show to other folks in fightin the good fight, though. Really hope y' all can get someone to respond to this and find out what alls goin on. I'm purty sure round these parts all the illness is directly related, what all with hospital wards bein closed, etc. Just waitin for the bird flu next.
Wisht I had a more scientific background and knew folks to help ya where ya are, but my mission seems to be to use ma loud mouth, cuz all I can bring to this issue is exposure ,but jeepers, that is one tough biscuit.
Have to say at this point workin with teens looks like the best bet at gettin this info off the net and on the streets, leastaways where I live. It's happenin, at any rate.
This fires gotta catch and burn soon. May it be so.
Here's a coupla chemtrail sites worth lookin at and maybe there's someone worth contactin at one a these?
http://www.chemtrails911.com/index.htm
The other person I'd try and contact is Rosalind Peterson, she is featured on this Freeman video:
http://oneheartbooks.com/resources/videos/chemtrails_freeman_peterson.htm
Heck, y'all could prolly call Freeman himself to get a contact maybe...
Sorry I ain't in your neck a the woods, but if it's as bad as ya say, and I'm sure it is, I'd be on the blower, pronto.
Hey, what about the guy who got his backyard standin water analysed from Arkansas?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=okB-489l6MI
This is worth another look for those that missed it first time.

My oh my, gonna put my thinkin cap on, got any good local news people? Didn't used to think that was possible but some folks are bustin out a the matrix.
I ain't takin NONE a this lyin down.

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#26236 - 01/05/08 11:01 AM Re: Just A Friendly Update - Jan 5, 2008
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No doubt you all have seen